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Remember Beanie Sigel’s ‘The Truth’? Well if it were to be used as a theme song for an artist hailing from today’s generation, it would undoubtedly be 30-year-old Anderson .Paak.
The west coast musical prodigy is the truth in every sense of the word: Humble, passionate and swimming in talent, he’s been busy playing the circuit for quite some time fighting his way out of the depths of obscurity. But he needn’t fight anymore.
Officially signing on the dotted line just a few weeks ago, Anderson .Paak is now a fully-fledged member of Dr. Dre’s Aftermath family. Joining a label whose legacy includes nurturing the careers of Eminem, 50 Cent, The Game, Kendrick Lamar, and Dr. Dre himself, the sky really is the limit for the NxWorries singer/songwriter/rapper/producer/instrumentalist.
Busy promoting new album Malibu, the eclectic funkster put some time aside to speak to Gigwise about various topics, including chasing his dreams whilst homeless, appearing on Dr. Dre’s Compton album, and whether or not he was hesitant to work with Macklemore & Ryan Lewis following the Grammy Awards controversy including new label mate Kendrick Lamar.
First thing's first, why the dot in the middle of your name?
“Detail. It stands for detail. Always paying attention to detail. I feel like that’s what it took to get here. To get me to where I’m at now I had to do a lot of paying attention. I had to do some developing of work ethic and I had to get some good habits on the go as I didn’t have any before, and it took some time to realise that. But once I started paying attention to detail people started paying attention to me so I put it there in my name.”
And when people don’t use it?
“It shows me a lot about that person.”
You’ve mentioned on record before, as well as in other interviews, that you were once homeless and you had to overcome various other hardships. Did you ever think during the lowest points of your life that you’d one day be where you are today?
“It was always in the back of my mind, yes. I’d always say to myself, ‘There’s gotta be a better ending to this. It can’t be like this.’ Which is usually why I always ended up coming back. If I ever took a break from music, or was down then I’d always say that to myself, and if it wasn’t me saying it then it was my closest friend, Jose, who’s been riding with me and who was at those low points with me. He was always in my ear like, ‘Yo, it’s ok. We’re gonna be good. It’s gonna work out and we’re gonna be crushing it one day, trust me.’
“There was always a lot of supportive people around me, who a lot of the time were helping me out and getting me to the next level. They were like, ‘Yo, you’re gonna make it. Don’t worry, you’re gonna be straight. Just keep doing what you do.’ So I definitely had it in my gut that there was something on the horizon, and that was the main thing that kept me going, like, ‘It’s gonna happen at some point, just keep it poppin’.’ It just always felt worse whenever I just stopped.”
If you stop there’s no knowing if you were one more step away from achieving your dreams…
“Right! And I believe that that’s all that separates a person from the next. The successful person is just the one that didn’t stop.”
What was the moment that made you realise you’d made it?
“Made it? I don’t know. People say that a lot but I don’t know if I feel that way.”
Okay then, how about when you realised you’d achieved your dreams, or were in the same realm as achieving your dreams?
“Well when [Dr.] Dre’s album dropped I was like, ‘Well, this is pretty lit. (Haha!) I’m probably about to be the man now for at least a couple of weeks.’ When that pre-order dropped I was like, ‘Wait. I’m on Dre’s album, the one that was never supposed to drop.’”
Are you saying you didn’t know you were going to be on it?
“I felt like I knew I was going to be on something, but you never know until that shit drops, and that’s the same for any record. People tell you, ‘It’s the single, it’s this and it’s that,’ and then the shit doesn’t even make the album. And remember this was Dr. Dre’s long awaited album. People were like, ‘I worked on it for seven years and it never saw the light of day.’ I heard all kinds of horror stories.”
And it had changed form so many times yet you ended up on the final version…
“Dude! It was crazy. And I was one of those dudes that never thought Dre was going to ever drop another record, let alone that I would be on it. That’s one of the things I never really ever thought of.”
So back when Dre dropped 2001 in 1999, it wouldn’t have even crossed your mind that 16 years later you’d working with him?
“No. That record was huge! I mean that record was so amazing for me. I was just getting into making beats too at that point. But yeah it was so far fetched, the idea that I’d one day be working with him. But he’s always been a part of my musical DNA growing up. So I’ve always been like, ‘Damn, what’s the craziest thing musically that could happen to me?’ and I guess that would have been one of them.”
After grinding away for so long, why do you think your time is now?
“I don’t know. I think everyone’s got their time. Everyone’s got their own unique story to tell, but I think people get it when they want it. When they really, really want it. That’s what happened with me. I was doing a lot of background work, but not as an artist, it was more a drummer for hire type thing, building other bands and producing for other people. I think that contributed to it taking a little longer for me, but honestly, once I started putting out music that started to resonate with people that’s when things started to change. You know?
“When I started putting out music that actually mattered to people then they just couldn’t ignore it. Whether it was music that they strongly hated or strongly loved it didn’t matter, they felt real feelings about it, and that’s when things started to happen.
“I don’t think there’s any kind of rocket science behind it. When you have good material it’s going to get shared, especially in this day and age. It might not be shared at light speed - sometimes it will - but it will get shared. People like to feel cool, like they’ve got the new shit first, and I feel like that’s what happens. It took a while for me, but once I realised that I really wanted it I then started to make some music that mattered. I was sick of putting out projects that just didn’t matter to people. I’m done with that. I wanted to get better. I wanted to put out visuals that mattered, music that mattered, and I wanted to go on tours that mattered.”
You recently dropped your new album Malibu. On it you have a track with ScHoolboy Q called ‘Am I Wrong’. Usually a rowdy and rebellious rapper dipped in gangsta rap influences, how on earth did you get him sounding like Andre 3000 on that particular track?
“Haha! I just played the record for him and he was loving it. I didn’t even think that was gonna be the record at all. I had another one that was like a super ScHoolboy Q sounding record but he was like, ‘I want this one.’ He knew he wanted to do that. He’s been saying for a while that he was ready to move past this rap shit and evolve into some other shit, and I think ‘Am I Wrong’ was a step into that.”
Another artist that features on Malibu is Rapsody. It’s almost as if your careers have mirrored one another. You both came up on popular underground labels - you on Stones Throw, her on Jamla - you both started being called upon to appear on big albums, and then you were both co-signed by Dr. Dre. What’s your opinion of her?
“First of all I feel like she’s probably the best female MC. Fuck it, she’s one of the best MCs period. She’s fucking killing it and she’s a sweetheart. She has the demeanour of an elementary school teacher but then she gets on the mic and she’s a beast, she’s super nice! And I love her to death. I think she’s gonna get everything she wants out of this life. You know? She should move to L.A., that’s gonna be the start of it.”
And then have her sign to Aftermath?
“Exactly! Who knows?”
You feature on the new Macklemore & Ryan Lewis album on a track called ‘Dance Off’, featuring Idris Elba. Were you ever hesitant to do the record based off of the whole Grammy controversy with Kendrick - being that you’re now a part of the Aftermath family - and because of the fuss the Hip Hop community made about it?
“I’m always kinda edgy when it comes to features in general because I guess I have to think about my brand a bit more now. But I liked the tune and I’m a big fan of Idris - I had just seen Beasts of No Nation and I was like, ‘What the fuck!? Hell yeah I’m down.’ And then they were really cool in the studio, and the homie Tunji, who A&Red good kid m.A.A.d. city and all these other great records, he was the one that hooked it up, and usually anything that he gets me involved in I’m 100% down to do.”
So Idris Elba was the selling point?
“It really was. It was great and was a lot of fun, but I definitely thought about that though. I thought about how the Grammy incident may have affected them as a group and how they were perceived at that point. And I remember telling my manager too, ‘How do you think their career was affected after that Grammy thing?’ I just remember thinking about it.”
Anderson .Paak’s new album, Malibu, is out now via Steel Wool/OBE/Art Club.
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